Watch and Learn - Gov. Andy Beshear - Breaking the Trump Fever in Kentucky

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How are you?

How are you

I'm good.

I'm good

How are things down in now--

How are things down in now-

you're up in the Northeast.

you're up in the Northeast

What are we dealing with weather

wise in your beautiful home state of Kentucky?

wise in your beautiful home state of Kentucky

Is it similar to the tundra that we have?

Is it similar to the tundra that we have

We got hit hard.

We got hit hard

And we've gotten hit hard over and over.

And we've gotten hit hard over and over

This was our 15th federally declared weather disaster

since I became governor.

since I became governor

So we had about 0.8 inches of ice in part of our state.

So we had about 08 inches of ice in part of our state

We had about a foot of snow in the rest.

We had about a foot of snow in the rest

But we've worked really hard, make sure--

But we've worked really hard make sure-

To get it done.

To get it done

So you've had 15 weather-related--

So you've had 15 weather-related-

And a pandemic, and an airplane crash,

And a pandemic and an airplane crash

and a couple of helicopter crashes.

and a couple of helicopter crashes

So we've been through the wringer.

So we've been through the wringer

What's the common thread throughout all this--

What's the common thread throughout all this-

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You know, who was the governor before you, sir?

You know who was the governor before you sir

The common thread is that we band together

and we push through.

and we push through

Son of a gun, look at you.

Son of a gun look at you

Now that's the thing.

Now that's the thing

So, you know, you are an anomaly

So you know you are an anomaly

in the world of the left.

in the world of the left

You are someone who has accrued power.

You are someone who has accrued power

What did Trump win Kentucky by?

What did Trump win Kentucky by

31 the second time.

31 the second time

31.

That's like Putin number-- like,

That's like Putin number- like

that's-- in a Democratic society winning by 31,

that's- in a Democratic society winning by 31

like, that's insane.

like that's insane

And how-- and were you elected on that same cycle?

And how- and were you elected on that same cycle

I was elected a year earlier by 5 points.

I was elected a year earlier by 5 points

So not bad for a Democrat in Kentucky.

So not bad for a Democrat in Kentucky

A 36--

A 36-

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And if I may-- and this is--

And if I may- and this is-

I'm just going from some videos I saw.

I'm just going from some videos I saw

How did you cheat?

How did you cheat

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Apparently very effectively.

Apparently very effectively

Nicely done.

Nicely done

No.

But what is-- explain that.

But what is- explain that

Because that is-- there is certainly

Because that is- there is certainly

a percentage of prognosticators that would look at that

and think, what's the secret sauce?

and think what's the secret sauce

So I think it's three things.

So I think it's three things

First, I stand up for all my convictions.

First I stand up for all my convictions

We push back against discrimination in any form.

We push back against discrimination in any form

But I spend 80% of my time on issues that matter to 100%

But I spend 80 of my time on issues that matter to 100

of the people of Kentucky.

of the people of Kentucky

That starts with your job and whether you make

enough to raise your family.

enough to raise your family

It's your next doctor's appointment for yourself,

It's your next doctor's appointment for yourself

your parents or your kids.

your parents or your kids

It's the roads and bridges you drive,

It's the roads and bridges you drive

the school you drop your kids off at,

the school you drop your kids off at

and whether you feel safe in your community.

and whether you feel safe in your community

Are you reading this?

Are you reading this

I've said it once or twice.

I've said it once or twice

I think a couple of times.

I think a couple of times

So you're basically saying, like, you've

So you're basically saying like you've

found a way to connect your leadership

to their actual lives.

to their actual lives

Is that something that you think

Democrats at the national level have not been able to-- to do?

Democrats at the national level have not been able to- to do

Is that the disconnect?

Is that the disconnect

Well, we either haven't done it effectively,

Well we either haven't done it effectively

or we haven't communicated about it effectively.

or we haven't communicated about it effectively

You know, in addition, I'd say that the thing

You know in addition I'd say that the thing

that Democrats have to do better

is talk like normal human beings.

is talk like normal human beings

You-- thank you.

You- thank you

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Chuck Schumer has started cursing.

Chuck Schumer has started cursing

If you could tell him to stop--

If you could tell him to stop-

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There is nothing I want to see less than that.

There is nothing I want to see less than that

But you think about how this advocacy speak

has pushed into our lingo.

has pushed into our lingo

And it had a right meaning of trying to change stigma.

And it had a right meaning of trying to change stigma

But you don't change stigma by changing words.

But you don't change stigma by changing words

You change it by changing hearts.

You change it by changing hearts

And so a tough example in Kentucky is,

And so a tough example in Kentucky is

we lost a lot of our friends to overdoses.

we lost a lot of our friends to overdoses

But I don't know one family that

says they lost a family member from substance use disorder.

says they lost a family member from substance use disorder

They all say they lost them from addiction

because that word is that mean, tough thing

because that word is that mean tough thing

that takes people from us.

that takes people from us

But you see it in other areas.

But you see it in other areas

You see people saying food insecurity.

You see people saying food insecurity

So when people are hungry, they're hungry.

So when people are hungry they're hungry

Or the newest one is called justice-involved population.

Or the newest one is called justice-involved population

JON STEWART: Say that again?

JON STEWART: Say that again

Justice-involved population.

Justice-involved population

I don't think I've heard that.

I don't think I've heard that

Well, listen, we believe in second chances.

Well listen we believe in second chances

We've got a low recidivism rate.

We've got a low recidivism rate

But those are inmates.

But those are inmates

Right, right, right.

Right right right

And you know what they call themselves?

And you know what they call themselves

Inmates. - Right.

Inmates Right

But do you think-- is that--

But do you think- is that-

certainly understand, like, there

certainly understand like there

is a frustration with language and those other situations.

is a frustration with language and those other situations

But I would imagine, if they felt like government

But I would imagine if they felt like government

was responsive in other areas, they might not--

was responsive in other areas they might not-

if they feel like that's all they're doing,

if they feel like that's all they're doing

does that speak to-- and I don't say this in a bad way--

does that speak to- and I don't say this in a bad way-

but the consultant class of politicians?

but the consultant class of politicians

Because don't they say-- like, you say, talk normally.

Because don't they say- like you say talk normally

That's the thing they say about Trump that they

like so much, that he talks-- you know,

like so much that he talks- you know

this is how regular people talk.

this is how regular people talk

And you're like, are regular people terrible?

And you're like are regular people terrible

I don't think they are.

I don't think they are

Well, he talks to you instead of at you, right?

Well he talks to you instead of at you right

But that's different than colloquial language

or calling something intellectual language.

or calling something intellectual language

It's connecting-- - That's right.

It's connecting- That's right

--however you do it.

-however you do it

And so I think the last piece is, Democrats

And so I think the last piece is Democrats

are really good at the what.

are really good at the what

We talk about policy point 3, bullet

We talk about policy point 3 bullet

point 4 sub iii underneath--

point 4 sub iii underneath-

JON STEWART: Consultant class.

JON STEWART: Consultant class

Yes.

Yes

But we don't talk about our why enough,

But we don't talk about our why enough

not just what you're for but why you're

for it, what drives you, what gets you up out of bed

for it what drives you what gets you up out of bed

every day, willing to deal with the mess that is politics

every day willing to deal with the mess that is politics

right now because you believe so strongly,

right now because you believe so strongly

you're willing to do it.

you're willing to do it

Is it that you've done those things

or that there's been effective--

or that there's been effective-

that the things you've done, they've

that the things you've done they've

seen tangible results on?

seen tangible results on

Oh, it's definitely both.

Oh it's definitely both

I mean, we've broken every record

I mean we've broken every record

for private sector investment, new jobs,

for private sector investment new jobs

wages, exports, tourism.

wages exports tourism

And so people see their lives getting better.

And so people see their lives getting better

And I think even if you go back to 2024,

And I think even if you go back to 2024

that last group of voters that were undecided

believe that the vice president was distracted

and that the president was talking

about making things cost less.

about making things cost less

And so we have to make sure that the American people

know that Donald Trump is making everything cost more.

know that Donald Trump is making everything cost more

He's decimating rural health care.

He's decimating rural health care

He's posting blatantly racist memes, that he is not--

He's posting blatantly racist memes that he is not-

But if that doesn't connect through,

But if that doesn't connect through

like, convincing the population that he's post--

like convincing the population that he's post-

I mean, the guy came down an elevator,

I mean the guy came down an elevator

I don't know, 15 years ago and was like, Mexicans are rapists.

I don't know 15 years ago and was like Mexicans are rapists

And once you cross that barrier--

And once you cross that barrier-

So he wasn't hiding it.

So he wasn't hiding it

Right.

Right

It's not like he's been playing coy

and we have to convince them.

and we have to convince them

What I've found is, it feels like Democrats have maybe

What I've found is it feels like Democrats have maybe

lost a more accessible, coherent leadership

lost a more accessible coherent leadership

platform, if that makes sense, a coherent governance.

platform if that makes sense a coherent governance

Well, I think it does.

Well I think it does

But the goal there is, how are we working

But the goal there is how are we working

to better people's lives?

to better people's lives

I mean, right now, look at the polling on the American dream.

I mean right now look at the polling on the American dream

People believe that if you work hard and follow the rules,

People believe that if you work hard and follow the rules

you still don't get ahead.

you still don't get ahead

And we've got--

And we've got-

Are they moved by the things you do?

Are they moved by the things you do

When you build those jobs, do you see a difference

When you build those jobs do you see a difference

in the opinion polls?

in the opinion polls

Yes.

Yes

So there's a town called Henderson in Kentucky.

So there's a town called Henderson in Kentucky

It's a former coal-mining town.

It's a former coal-mining town

It hit hard times, and it was moving to the right.

It hit hard times and it was moving to the right

I won it by about 500 votes in 2019.

I won it by about 500 votes in 2019

I thought it'd be the last time ever.

I thought it'd be the last time ever

Right before the 2023 election, we

Right before the 2023 election we

landed the cleanest, greenest recycled paper

landed the cleanest greenest recycled paper

mill in the country, 350 new jobs, paying $40 an hour.

mill in the country 350 new jobs paying 40 an hour

JON STEWART: Solid.

JON STEWART: Solid

And I will never forget, the owner of that facility

And I will never forget the owner of that facility

Zoomed in for the groundbreaking.

Zoomed in for the groundbreaking

And he said, we're creating 350-- and then he used

And he said we're creating 350- and then he used

the term in coal country--

the term in coal country-

green jobs.

green jobs

And you know what everybody did?

And you know what everybody did

JON STEWART: Boo. - No.

JON STEWART: Boo No

They gave him a standing ovation

because they pay $40 an hour.

because they pay 40 an hour

Right.

Right

I thought when you said green, they'd be all like,

I thought when you said green they'd be all like

we're leaving.

we're leaving

Not-- not if it's-- not if it's helping

Not- not if it's- not if it's helping

them in their lives.

them in their lives

What has this environment that you're operating

as-- because I imagine it's a really difficult balance that

as- because I imagine it's a really difficult balance that

you have to balance those types of jobs

with an administration that is clearly penalizing blue states.

with an administration that is clearly penalizing blue states

Now, it might be different for you

Now it might be different for you

because you're in a red state.

because you're in a red state

But you're a blue governor.

But you're a blue governor

Have you felt any of that personal animus

directed towards Kentucky?

directed towards Kentucky

Has he withheld things from Kentucky in the way

that he's done it from other states?

that he's done it from other states

Well, he's withheld things from everybody.

Well he's withheld things from everybody

I've taken him to court to get money

for building resiliently after all of the tornadoes and

the floods that we've had.

the floods that we've had

He tried to cancel a grant for a warning

system for Eastern Kentucky when it floods.

system for Eastern Kentucky when it floods

I've gone to court with other governors

to prevent him from sending the National Guard

from one state to another without the permission

of that governor.

of that governor

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That's your background, right?

That's your background right

Your background is in-- you were the attorney

Your background is in- you were the attorney

general of Kentucky. - I was.

general of Kentucky I was

But we also took him to court over things like AmeriCorps.

But we also took him to court over things like AmeriCorps

What a great program that's helping out our school.

What a great program that's helping out our school

And he just cut it.

And he just cut it

But Democrats, Democratic AGs and governors,

But Democrats Democratic AGs and governors

took him to court.

took him to court

One, we're receiving that money.

One we're receiving that money

Red states aren't.

Red states aren't

Oh, because they did-- oh, so here's something.

Oh because they did- oh so here's something

I didn't even think of this.

I didn't even think of this

The Supreme Court--

The Supreme Court-

That's right.

That's right

--had a decision where you can't grant

-had a decision where you can't grant

universal injunctions.

universal injunctions

That's right.

That's right

And so they thought they'd won that case, but they haven't.

And so they thought they'd won that case but they haven't

So Democrats that have the courage

to stand up to him to say that Congress appropriated

this money and you don't have a choice,

this money and you don't have a choice

that money is flowing to our states and

not those red states.

not those red states

That's bold, dude.

That's bold dude

Let me ask you this.

Let me ask you this

Do you think that the legal system-- because, you know,

Do you think that the legal system- because you know

how many Democratic governors are there?

how many Democratic governors are there

23?

Oh, we are, yeah, just under half.

Oh we are yeah just under half

Just under half.

Just under half

You know, what is it that they can do?

You know what is it that they can do

You know, you see what he's doing in Oregon.

You know you see what he's doing in Oregon

You see what he's doing in Chicago.

You see what he's doing in Chicago

You see what he's doing in Minnesota.

You see what he's doing in Minnesota

What can the cavalry of Democratic governors

do, other than lawsuits, to kind of

do other than lawsuits to kind of

form a coalition of people--

form a coalition of people-

I don't want to say confederation.

I don't want to say confederation

It has a--

It has a-

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The connotations are not great.

The connotations are not great

But how can they force amplify to fight

some of these really petty things that are being done?

some of these really petty things that are being done

Well, we communicate a lot.

Well we communicate a lot

And we all know each other well.

And we all know each other well

And what you see is us banding together to go to court

but also to move the court of public opinion.

but also to move the court of public opinion

You see right now what's going on

in Minnesota, the videos, the fact

in Minnesota the videos the fact

that we have an American body count

for Donald Trump's deportation plans.

for Donald Trump's deportation plans

You see his other actions in other states.

You see his other actions in other states

You see the picture of that five-year-old child.

You see the picture of that five-year-old child

Listen, that is a child of God, just like any other one.

Listen that is a child of God just like any other one

Right.

Right

Well, is there any fiduciary-- is there a way that blue states

Well is there any fiduciary- is there a way that blue states

can withhold something from the federal government to force

his hand or anything--

his hand or anything-

Tougher because they have a lot more money than we do.

Tougher because they have a lot more money than we do

But what we can do is push back in the ways you're seeing.

But what we can do is push back in the ways you're seeing

And some of them have been really effective.

And some of them have been really effective

That win in the Supreme Court on the National Guard

was critically important.

was critically important

I think that plus the tariff case are the questions of,

I think that plus the tariff case are the questions of

will our Supreme Court hold up?

will our Supreme Court hold up

Will our judicial branch be a effective third branch

of government?

of government

Is it hard-- you know, the Democratic governors,

Is it hard- you know the Democratic governors

you all know each other.

you all know each other

But clearly, there's a-- now we're

But clearly there's a- now we're

moving more towards, you know, the presidential election.

moving more towards you know the presidential election

Do you guys talk about that?

Do you guys talk about that

Do you talk about that with, like, Shapiro and

Do you talk about that with like Shapiro and

Newsom and all those guys? Like, are you running?

Newsom and all those guys Like are you running

I was thinking about running. What are you thinking?

I was thinking about running What are you thinking

Do you guys talk about that?

Do you guys talk about that

I haven't had that conversation.

I haven't had that conversation

We're really focused on '26.

We're really focused on '26

And we're focused not--

And we're focused not-

You guys have not discussed with one another

whether you'll run for president?

whether you'll run for president

No.

You're not sitting there-- you don't go out to coffee

You're not sitting there- you don't go out to coffee

in the governor thing--

in the governor thing-

You mean to say, you doing it?

You mean to say you doing it

Hey, man, are you-- you're not going to Iowa.

Hey man are you- you're not going to Iowa

Are you going to Iowa?

Are you going to Iowa

Well, Jon, we're here.

Well Jon we're here

Are you doing it?

Are you doing it

Me?

Yeah.

Yeah

Let me ask you this.

Let me ask you this

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No one else will.

No one else will

Who's-- who would be-- like, which one do you think

Who's- who would be- like which one do you think

would be the best president?

would be the best president

And on the--

And on the-

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Reasonable question.

Reasonable question

All right.

All right

We'll take the other-- we'll take the converse.

We'll take the other- we'll take the converse

Who's the worst one, the governor?

Who's the worst one the governor

Who's the one where, like, you guys are at the governor's

Who's the one where like you guys are at the governor's

conference and, like, the elevator opens, and

conference and like the elevator opens and

he's about to walk in, and you just go-- or she--

he's about to walk in and you just go- or she-

and you just go, oh, [BLEEP]?

and you just go oh BLEEP

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Ron DeSantis.

Ron DeSantis

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So smooth, so smooth.

So smooth so smooth

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Does the-- by the way, I know how that would go.

Does the- by the way I know how that would go

You would go-- Ron DeSantis there.

You would go- Ron DeSantis there

You go, Ron?

You go Ron

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Short joke.

Short joke

All right.

All right

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The tariffs and all-- so the best-laid plans of mice and

The tariffs and all- so the best-laid plans of mice and

men-- you know, man builds.

men- you know man builds

God laughs.

God laughs

What is it that you've done?

What is it that you've done

You've got these plants.

You've got these plants

You've got these things.

You've got these things

How has the tariffs and the chaos

of Trump's economic policy affect the things

that you put into place?

that you put into place

Because I know you did a lot of-- if I remember,

Because I know you did a lot of- if I remember

we talked on the podcast with EVs and batteries.

we talked on the podcast with EVs and batteries

You had big factories coming.

You had big factories coming

What happened to that?

What happened to that

Well, it's hit us, and it's hit us hard.

Well it's hit us and it's hit us hard

Now, we are a state whose economy is still expanding.

Now we are a state whose economy is still expanding

But that's through hustle.

But that's through hustle

Most states have fallen into recession.

Most states have fallen into recession

And tariffs are a big reason why.

And tariffs are a big reason why

It's the single worst economic policy of my lifetime.

It's the single worst economic policy of my lifetime

It makes everything cost more for our family.

It makes everything cost more for our family

Tell me how that affects on a state level--

Tell me how that affects on a state level-

what are the downstream effects of those tariffs on Kentucky?

what are the downstream effects of those tariffs on Kentucky

Think about it this way.

Think about it this way

Donald Trump wants them to cause

companies to build things in the US

that aren't built in the US.

that aren't built in the US

But if you're going to do that, you

But if you're going to do that you

got to import all the materials and all the equipment

from a different country.

from a different country

In other words, doing what he wants to do

In other words doing what he wants to do

costs that much more.

costs that much more

We were reshoring as a country.

We were reshoring as a country

The person who slowed it down, if not halted it,

The person who slowed it down if not halted it

is Donald J. Trump.

is Donald J Trump

Wow.

Wow

So what is-- are those plants still going forward?

So what is- are those plants still going forward

So we had two of the biggest battery plants in the world.

So we had two of the biggest battery plants in the world

One had opened.

One had opened

We had 1,600 Kentuckians working at it.

We had 1600 Kentuckians working at it

And, listen, they didn't care Democrat,

And listen they didn't care Democrat

Republican, or independent.

Republican or independent

These were good jobs that they were going to be

able to raise their family on.

able to raise their family on

That big, ugly bill, that's also

That big ugly bill that's also

going to devastate rural health care, cut EV credits.

going to devastate rural health care cut EV credits

And what happened-- ultimately, the partnership that was

And what happened- ultimately the partnership that was

running those plants broke up.

running those plants broke up

Now, Ford's stepping in.

Now Ford's stepping in

It's taking both of them.

It's taking both of them

And I think we're still going to hit

all those jobs doing storage batteries that

will help our grid that will--

will help our grid that will-

JON STEWART: So they retool--

JON STEWART: So they retool-

But it's going to take maybe two more years.

But it's going to take maybe two more years

And that's 1,600 people that are being told for 12 to 24

And that's 1600 people that are being told for 12 to 24

months that they're not going to have

that job they trained for.

that job they trained for

And so it's one of my congressmen that helped push

that bill through that is eliminating

1,600 jobs in his district.

1600 jobs in his district

He called it a liberal pipe dream.

He called it a liberal pipe dream

I want him to tell that to every

one of the 1,600 Kentuckians that has to find a new job.

one of the 1600 Kentuckians that has to find a new job

The person-- see, that's unusual.

The person- see that's unusual

A lot of times, even when somebody

A lot of times even when somebody

might have a sort of dogmatic party

line, when it's a colloquial issue, they'll bend on it.

line when it's a colloquial issue they'll bend on it

Do you mind-- who is the Congressman?

Do you mind- who is the Congressman

That's Brett Guthrie, but he's not the only one.

That's Brett Guthrie but he's not the only one

This blind allegiance to Trump has people doing

things that hurt their state.

things that hurt their state

JON STEWART: Have you seen it wane?

JON STEWART: Have you seen it wane

Where do you think most windmills are in--

Where do you think most windmills are in-

Most windmills? Oh.

Most windmills Oh

Uh--

Uh-

- They're in red states. - Windmills?

They're in red states Windmills

Oh, yes.

Oh yes

I was going to say Holland.

I was going to say Holland

Well--

Well-

You mean in the United States.

You mean in the United States

And what happened?

And what happened

Are those now shutting down or they're having to--

Are those now shutting down or they're having to-

No, they're pushing the projects to halt,

No they're pushing the projects to halt

making it that much harder.

making it that much harder

And these are states that brag to companies that they have

a diverse energy portfolio.

a diverse energy portfolio

So is this-- this is a plus-31 red state.

So is this- this is a plus-31 red state

They went for Trump plus 31.

They went for Trump plus 31

Have you seen, anecdotally or otherwise,

Have you seen anecdotally or otherwise

an erosion of support?

an erosion of support

Or is it still just--

Or is it still just-

it's almost it's religious in its fervor still?

it's almost it's religious in its fervor still

What are you seeing?

What are you seeing

Oh.

I think we're seeing the fever break.

I think we're seeing the fever break

And I look at it as a soybean farmer.

And I look at it as a soybean farmer

A soybean farmer grows--

A soybean farmer grows-

You're also a soybean farmer?

You're also a soybean farmer

No, I'm not.

No I'm not

No.

My first job was mucking horse stalls.

My first job was mucking horse stalls

So I am prepared for politics.

So I am prepared for politics

JON STEWART: Been there, fella.

JON STEWART: Been there fella

It ain't-- it ain't no fun.

It ain't- it ain't no fun

So when you look at our soybean farmers right now,

So when you look at our soybean farmers right now

probably 90%-plus percent voted for Donald Trump.

probably 90-plus percent voted for Donald Trump

Yet, his tariff policy, his cutting

Yet his tariff policy his cutting

of USAID, his cutting of the farm-to-table programs

of USAID his cutting of the farm-to-table programs

for our schools have hit this group of people

to the point of bankruptcy.

to the point of bankruptcy

Their market may never come back.

Their market may never come back

This person that they believed in,

This person that they believed in

that they thought was going to fight for them,

that they thought was going to fight for them

is about to ruin them.

is about to ruin them

And you're seeing people speak out.

And you're seeing people speak out

That's so hard.

That's so hard

First of all, it's a hard life to begin with.

First of all it's a hard life to begin with

That's such a difficult-- farm jobs are so difficult.

That's such a difficult- farm jobs are so difficult

So the tough part right now being governor

is, yes, you see the numbers starting to move.

is yes you see the numbers starting to move

Yes, it's going to be a good midterm for Democrats

Yes it's going to be a good midterm for Democrats

but at the cost of Donald Trump hurting

the American people, making their lives that much harder.

the American people making their lives that much harder

That's not something that I want to see happen.

That's not something that I want to see happen

Well, I really appreciate it.

Well I really appreciate it

I give you great respect.

I give you great respect

I hope to come visit you in the great state of

Kentucky someday.

Kentucky someday

I promise you, I will have a better menu than RFK, Jr.

I promise you I will have a better menu than RFK Jr

when you show up.

when you show up

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